Chess Openings: Learn to Play the Dunst Opening / Van Geet Opening!
There are three chess openings for white we have covered on this channel, those being the Vienna Game, Lizard Attack, and Grand Prix Attack. These are responses for white against e5, the Scandinavian Defense, and the Sicilian Defense. What if I told you that there is a way to trick the Sicilian player into playing e5, or the e5 player going into a Scandinavian Defense. With the Vienna Game, Lizard Attack, and Grand Prix Attack, we start off with the moves e4 and Nc3. In today’s video, we will simply cover what happens when we play Nc3 and then e4. By doing this, we have officially utilized the Dunst Opening / Van Geet Opening. I say both the Dunst and Van Geet because this chess opening for white has two different names. Whichever name you use, 1. Nc3 from white is possibly one of the most underrated chess opening systems out there. You can reach openings such as the French Defense, Caro-Kann, Sicilian Defense, e5, Pirc Defense, Alekhine’s Defense, and Scandinavian Defense. The thing is, the large majority of the time, your opponent will be playing one of these chess openings for the first time. The Dunst Opening is a top tier chess opening for white as it can easily transition into any of these major openings while also keeping good chess opening strategy at the forefront of every move. The Dunst Opening (or Van Geet Opening) is a good chess opening for beginner chess players, and a good chess opening for intermediate chess players. Why is this? It fights for the center of the board, and also allows white some flexibility into what chess opening they want to enter into. One example of this is that white could go for the Ritcher-Veresov Attack opposed to the Lizard Attack, if that happens to be your preference. The Dunst Opening is one of my favorite chess openings for white because I personally enjoy chess openings such as the Grand Prix and Vienna Game. The lines and variations that come out of both of these (in addition to the Lizard Attack) are very similar. We look to get in an early f4, and then attack on the kingside. The chess opening strategy, chess opening theory, and chess opening principles of all these variations give white great chances to win. Want to learn how to play chess, win more games, and improve at chess as a whole? By playing the Dunst Opening, you will get an overall chess opening repertoire and be prepared for anything that comes your way. Are you a Grand Prix Attack player who likes the lines, variations, and middlegame positions you get? Do you enjoy the Lizard Attack, looking to take the Scandinavian Defense player out of its normal chess opening theory? Do you go with the Vienna Game, a classical chess opening system for white against e5? Are you simply wanting to trick your opponent into playing a chess opening they would never consider? In any of these cases, we hope you enjoy learning how to play the Dunst Opening / Van Geet Opening!
Timestamps:
0:00 Introduction
2:28 Vienna Game
4:41 Lizard Attack
9:01 Grand Prix Attack
13:43 All Other Variations
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Great video – i love your examples of why it is transpositionally important to get people out of their pet openings. But one thing to note I think is that 1.Nc3 e5 is actually a bad move from black. See both Wiki article but also in particular the Lichess Master's database which has no transpotional bias. The right move for 1.Nc3 e5 is 2.Nf3 with the idea of a quick d4 for getting very dangerous positions. See Lichess masters database (doesn't bias by transpositions) – e.g. 1.Nc3 e5 2.Nf3 e5 3.d4 which has a 45% win rate for White – this is a very unpleasant position for black. no need to go into the Vienna game which is a mistake I have done many times before finding this out. 1.Nc3 has it's own unique values which need to be appreciated. Cheers, K
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Nice!
Thanks for covering my request yo! My favorite opening! This is beyond helpful and covers a lot of the early spots I get confused with. Will be rewatching this a lot.
Ps: will break you off something for hooking this up soon as I get my pay pal back rocking. Thanks again and be good Giant!
Nice idea to play Nc3 as way to transpose to favourable openings
Enjoyed this, Solomon. It begins to fill in the gaps in Van Geet's monograph published by New In Chess ages ago, in which Van Geet specifically says, straight out, does not cover transpositions, except very lightly. So without some knowledge of these transpositions, you could get in trouble real fast. Hey, you want the opponent to be the one to get the surprise, right? Thanks, Solomon. Safe travels.
Stretch, I met you at coffee chess. Ballin Aaron. I was thinking of starting a basketball chess league. Hope to see you soon at Coffee Chess. You still ballin?
I played this in a recent tournament and every single opponent responded with 1…c5. One interesting line was 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 cd 4. Nd4 e5 5. Nb5 leading to a novel Sicilian type position in which white has a solid edge and some tricks.
I have to try this one, maybe i can trick someone to play the vienna or the jobava, thanks!!
takes notes furiously This is gold!
Hi Chess Giant, what opening do you like to play against 1…e4 . It seems that we have similar tastes (Scotch Gambit, Birds opening, Delayed wing gambit), so I think whatever you like I will probably like too. Thanks!
Next crazy knight move is Amar opening. Nh3!
Another nice video Solomon. When are you going to head back and kick it with the coffee chess crew? I want to see you play Hikaru!
6:36 What if d3 happens?
Thanks for the analysis
Ive always liked the Vienna, so I thought 1. Nc3 would be a good option to get that opening instead of 1. e4 and then who knows all the things black can play instead. But when I tried some 1.Nc3 practice games vs the Chess24 magnus bot, I felt like I was getting destroyed all the time: Nc3 d5 e4 d4 Nce2 Nc6 Ng3 a6 was typical. Next thing I know it would start advancing the h pawn, all the way to h3 making my king feel unsafe. 2.. d5 & 3..d4 seems like the royal test of 1. Nc3, I dont know if 3. d3 would be better than 3. Nce2. Or maybe I should focus on playing humans, otherwise the engines & bots make me feel like my understanding of chess/openings is alot less than I thought it was. But, I just figured they would show me the strongest lines as black, and what if my human opponent uses them…ps: Cyrus Lakadawala discusses some details of the position in his Scandanavian book via transposition, e4 d5 Nc3 d4…..
I managed to find a drawing line vs the Chess 24 Magnus bot. It seems to play much stronger than its 1956 rating, considering how many games it crushes opponents as if it was Stockfish. The game: Nc3 d5 e4 d4 Nce2 Nc6 d3 e5 c3 Nf6 Nf3 Bg4 Qb3 Qd7 h3 Bxf3 gxf3 a5 Qxb7 Rb8 Qa6 Bc5 Qc4 Qd6 h4 Rxb4?! cxb4 Bxb4 ch, Bd2 Bxd2 Kxd2 0-0 Rc1 Nb4 Qc5 Qe6 Qc4 Qb6 Qc5 Qe6 Qc4 Qb6 Qc5 Qe6 1/2-1/2.
f4 looks good, but here's a good example of how some imprecise moves (f4 to f5?) can lead to being crushed within 12 moves: Nc3 d5 e4 d4 Nce2 Nc6 f4 Nf6 d3 e5 f5? g6 Ng3 gxf5 Nxf5 Bxf5 exf5 Bb4 ch Bd2 Nd5! Bxb4 Ne3! Qe2 Nxb4… and 0-1 very soon.
I drew an IM with the Dunst! (I'm an 1850ish player). This opening is no joke and makes em squirm! I use this lately to transpose into the Jobava London sometimes.
I am still trying to study what I think the most challenging line is, and that is Nc3 d5, e4 d4. It seems hard for white to dislodge black's central pawns, especially when d4 is supported by c5 & e5. Black can also be a menace on the kingside when advancing the h pawn to h5, h4, h3… Thus, I was wondering if another move is a good option, 1.Nc3 d5, 2. f4!? (instead of e4). Thus, if black plays 2…d4 anyway, the knight can go to e4, as the pawn is not there to block it. Black cant play c5 or e5 either, what do you think?
3:45 is that a really worthy sacrifice tho?